X-Sender: sgreen@pop.chemistry.mtu.edu Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:04:46 -0400 To: kites-l@mtu.edu, eegle-kites@wings.glerl.noaa.gov From: sarah a green Subject: KITES/EEGLE Special Issue news Cc: rick@skio.peachnet.edu, hclark@nsf.gov Hello KITES/EEGLE, Despite our best efforts and lots of encouragement from Bill Lewis, our proposed L&O special issue has been rejected by Everett Fee as too "project -focused". It seems that we were somewhat of a test case for the ASLO board and L&O to define their approach to special issues. (See below.) I am loath to re-open discussions on other options and propose to immediately pursue JGR-Oceans. The advantages are: - JGR regularly publishes this type of issue (including "project-focused"). - We can have a special reprint volume with the section papers bound with a special cover. - We can have the special volume distributed to subscribers of other JGR journals (e.g. Global Biogeochemical Cycles) in addition to regular JGR-Oceans subscribers. However, I have inquired about one other possibility, the AGU online journal: http://g-cubed.org/main.html. They have the equivalent of special issues, called "themes", http://g-cubed.org/theme/theme.html. However, I'm not certain our topics fit within their scope. Does anybody read it? Best Sarah >Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:47:16 -0700 >To: sarah a green >From: Everett Fee >Subject: Re: L&O KITES/EEGLE Special Issue editor questions > >Dear Sarah, > >I have now had a chance to study your recent E-mail outlining the rationale >for an L&O Special Issue (SI) based on the KITES/EEGLE programs. The list >of possible manuscripts for this proposed SI is impressive and helped me >understand for the first time exactly what the proposed SI would contain. I >thank you for taking the time to prepare this information. > >As Bill Lewis has already told you, your proposal was discussed by the ASLO >Board at the Board meeting last weekend in Boulder, CO. That discussion >centered around the issue of the kind of material that should be published >as an L&O SI. Based on that discussion and my own analysis of the list of >papers that might be in your proposed SI, I regret to inform you that L&O >will not consider this endeavor further. > >The fundamental reason for my decision is that the SI you propose is >project-focused. Up to now, L&O SI's have dealt with highly topical issues >(e.g., climate change effects on freshwater ecosystems, comparative ecology >of freshwater and marine ecosystems, effects of multiple stressors on >marine and freshwater ecosystems, ...), and the publication of an SI has >serviced the needs of a diverse group of researchers working on the topic. >The material that you propose to publish as an L&O SI has traditionally >been published either as a monograph (i.e., a book) or in a journal devoted >to project-focused groupings of papers (viz. Deep Sea Research II). A case >can certainly be made that ASLO should provide an alternate (i.e., >non-commercial) venue for the publication of project-focused groupings of >papers, and this option is presently under active consideration by the ASLO >Publications Committee, which will report to the Board next February at the >Ocean Sciences meeting in Honolulu. Publishing your proposed SI would send >a strong signal to the research community, viz. that L&O is now in the >business of publishing project-focused SI's. This would almost certainly >result in L&O being inundated with similar proposals from other projects >that are nearing completion; having accommodated one such proposal, it >would be unfair to decline others. > >I feel that it would be a serious mistake to expand L&O's scope to produce >project-focused SI's (i.e., to compete directly with DSR-II). L&O is the >bedrock on which all of ASLO is built and any new endeavor, such as this, >that could result in the L&O office being unable to meet publication >deadlines for regular issues cannot be considered. > >A final secondary consideration that worked against acceptance of your >proposal is your plan to have authors of papers in the SI who were not >funded by the KITES or EEGLE programs pay full publication costs ($200-250 >/ page). This would be a strong disincentive for outsiders to publish in >the SI and is not in accord with the way that all previous L&O SI's have >been funded. (In previous SI's a grant was obtained that covered the cost >of the entire SI, and all authors enjoyed the same freedom from publication >costs.) > >I apologize for taking so long to reach this decision. I have been editor >of L&O for only three years and am still growing into the job. Special >Issues have been a difficult nut for me to crack and it has taken my much >longer to think through your proposal than it will similar ones in the future. > >I thank you for your interest in L&O and hope that the discouraging outcome >of this SI proposal will not prevent KITES/EEGLE researchers from >submitting their research results to L&O on an individual basis. > >-Best regards, >Everett >_________________________________ >Everett Fee, Editor-in-Chief >Limnology & Oceanography Editorial Office >343 Lady MacDonald Crescent >Canmore, Alberta T1W 1H5 CANADA >voice: 403/609-2456, fax: 403/609-2400 >E-mail: if unsuccessful try >L&O website: >personal website: > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Dr. Sarah A. Green, Associate Professor Chemistry Department Michigan Technological University 1400 Townsend Drive Houghton, Michigan 49931 906/487-3419 lab: 487-2177 fax: 487-2061 KITES project Coordinator Director, Remote Sensing Institute http://chmac2.chem.mtu.edu/KITES/kites.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>